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Semil
@semil
To me, the most amazing thing about Snapchat, Uber, and a few other apps is they all don’t need the web.
52 replies and sub-replies as of May 06 2017
Danny Espinoza 🙃
@abcdannye
and this is just the beginning of that trend
yung content 뤀
@lukashmayyn
airbnb has a great site but I book solely thru its app. works very well.
David Gouldin
@dgouldin
yes they do, just not in the way you're thinking.
Semil
@semil
servers?
David Gouldin
@dgouldin
yep, I guarantee you every single one of those apps is using web servers and an API to communicate with their native app.
Semil
@semil
do you think that model will change/evolve, or is the web the most efficient host for this kind of function?
David Gouldin
@dgouldin
it's conceivable that http could fall by the wayside for that model, but it's hard to imagine tcp/ip being replaced.
Suneet Bhatt
@a_suneet
Great discussion. Owning the data and infrastructure vs the interface and experience (customer?) We debate it constantly.
David Gouldin
@dgouldin
that their UI is not presented in a web browser doesn't mean they don't need the web.
Giacomo Balli
@BigBalli
actually they're kinda useless without connection... :)
sean 🌹
@sean_a_rose
restated, they reduce the web to pipes instead of a point of interaction.
Semil
@semil
yes this a better way of stating it - thx guys
Dirk de Kok
@dirkdk
only games can function without the web, and then all social/viral features would be disabled
Keith Rabois
@rabois
nobody is going to be using the web soon.
Paul Stamatiou 📷
@Stammy
i think it'll work the opposite. there will no longer be such an 'app' just seamless browsing
Paul Stamatiou 📷
@Stammy
How many yrs until native mobile apps as we know them don't exist? 10? No more installing. Mobile browsers/OS will be different beasts then
Keith Rabois
@rabois
wrong.
Paul Stamatiou 📷
@Stammy
you think we'll still be "installing" apps left and right? I think we will never say "install" again. it'll just be there.
Paul Stamatiou 📷
@Stammy
mobile browsers will be more integrated with the core mobile OS, sites wont be like visiting static sites but contained rich expernc
Keith Rabois
@rabois
the web is just the long tail of apps that you haven't installed yet. cc
@DavidSacks
Paul Stamatiou 📷
@Stammy
yeah i think we're starting to see the beginning of this with app indexing
Damien Roué
@damienroue
and Google having now (and again) a central role to play with app indexing and Google Now
@rabois
@DavidSacks
Paul Stamatiou 📷
@Stammy
unfortunately this would mean we're going to rely more on these gatekeepers and app stores until we develop new dist
Semil
@semil
at least on iOS, Apple has little incentive to allow 3rd parties full access to webUIview. android maybe diff
Paul Stamatiou 📷
@Stammy
android <em>is</em> different (haha sequel title to
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Android is better
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Chris Dixon
@cdixon
I generally agree w Keith. But you do need long tail eg links off twitter.
Paul Stamatiou 📷
@Stammy
think we're talking about the same thing: every 'site' will be a rich exp like an app, easy to hop between
Paul Stamatiou 📷
@Stammy
I'm just suggesting that perhaps they will not feel like 'apps' as you wont need to install them. just be there.
Jordan Cooper
@jordancooper
I'm on this.
@trywildcard
beta opens in January.
Ryan Jones
@rjonesy
omg all your hinting tweets just connecting and I realized what you are building. Wow
@Stammy
@cdixon
@rabois
Adam Waxman
@ajwaxman
love this thread. Agree w
@Stammy
- just a matter of time
Will Weinraub
@willweinraub
@semil
+1 really fascinating/important thread. Would love to hear
@JasonLBaptiste
’s thoughts
Jason L. Baptiste
@JasonLBaptiste
Think of the web another app for content consumption + the most popular one.
Anu Nigam
@anigam
I agree. Nexus5 UI = SearchBar+NowCards+Deep Linking. Won't Google results just be cards in the future?
Jonathan Libov
@libovness
Problem is that mobile web experience will always pale in comparison to contemporaneous app experience
Paul Stamatiou 📷
@Stammy
always? Things may change in 5-10yrs. I'm excited to see what happens, either way.
Jonathan Libov
@libovness
as “always” as “always” gets in this industry, which isn’t really “always” :-)
Dylan Jhaveri
@dylanjha
that might not stay true
Jonathan Libov
@libovness
Jonathan Libov
@libovness
+
@Stammy
as “always” as “always” gets in this industry, which isn’t really “always” :-)
Danny Espinoza 🙃
@abcdannye
deep links to apps via twitter I imagine
Waqas Ali
@waqasali
An APP is putting any (interactive) web on a surface. We love them because we own them, unlike a website
Waqas Ali
@waqasali
I agree with Paul here, but future is more about how personalize any web / app can be. Starting w/ Siri.
Paul Stamatiou 📷
@Stammy
related: what does this mean for domain names. will they cease to be (as) important if we're just browsing apps
Mark Rogowsky
@maxrogo
Domain names are already less important. Multiple apps can have same name -- and do.
Keith Rabois
@rabois
well the Web will be dead.
Ankit Jain
@jain_ankit
It's '97 all over with portals (apps) currently... someone has to come & create entrypoint for all mobile...
#maybeiwill
Ankit Jain
@jain_ankit
actually... it is everything.me but for native apps and not just mobile web
Josh Elman
@joshelman
#youshould
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Danny Espinoza 🙃
@abcdannye
the notion of typing an address or clicking a link in a browser will seem as antiquated as programming a VCR to record TV
Rohit Satapathy
@RohitSatapathy
@semil
+1. For people growing up with mobile and tablets - the web is an alien experience.
Semil
@semil
I’d add to this even moreso as 1bn new folks come online who will never own a laptop.
Patrick Breitenbach
@pbreit
Even in business?
Norgard
@BrianNorgard
I told an entrepreneur the other day the fact that he had zero reliance on the Web meant he might be onto something...