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Marco Arment
@marcoarment
A quick post about the headphone jack:
marco.org/2016/07/01/jsn…
62 replies and sub-replies as of Jul 01 2016
Lowson
@andrewlowson
There's no way this could backfire.
Jeffrey Grossman
@Jeffrey903
How long until the headline is re-written as “Apple loyalist claims company is doomed over removal of headphone jack”
Brian Oblinger
@brianoblinger
Twisted minds think alike.
Randall Dietel
@R27D
my thoughts: iPhone will have headphone jack and single camera, iPhone Pro no headphone jack and dual camera.
Adam Selby
@adamselby
no way.
Greg Kaplan
@kaplag
backwards logic. Smaller, consumer oriented devices drop ports first.
Brian Oblinger
@brianoblinger
“Prominent technologist spews venom at Apple for confirmed headphone jack removal” - Every news site tomorrow
Anton Nekhaenko
@derloos
are we sure it’s still Lightning?
Anton Nekhaenko
@derloos
oh, wait. Yes, we are
investor.cirrus.com/news-and-event…
Keith Whamond
@keithwhamond
Wait, are you criticizing Apple’s non-justification for a rumored hardware change?
Keith Whamond
@keithwhamond
Not trying to be a jerk, just trying to figure out why this post needs to exist.
Ben Pickering
@benpickering
My thought is that this move in 2016 is all about setting the best possible scene for the rumoured radical 2017 iPhone
Ben Pickering
@benpickering
Get the yells of complaint out now so all can be shiny next year.
Barry Brown
@RezOtaku
I only have so much $$ to spend on gear/year, a dud iPhone might mean I upgrade my iPad and skip iPhone this year.
Calamity Jan
@VJGoh
I thought all of Patel's reasons were terrible; yours were actually legit. Now I'm less convinced it's a good idea.
Max Masnick
@masnick
selling lightning→3.5mm for $9.99 will just make people angry as it will be perceived as money grab. Should sell for $1.99.
Pete
@dypeterc
Most compelling argument for removing 3.5mm Jack is redundancy. Why have 2 ports that do the same thing when you can have 1?
Red Tape Media
@redtapemedia
why have 1 dongle when you can have none?
Jeff Chausse
@JeffChausse
Apple does not sell ANYTHING for $9.99. Ever.
Kel Bucey
@kabucey
$24.99 sounds more like Apple.
Michael Vinson
@SonOfVin
remember when it cost $9.99 to upgrade to iPhone OS?
Jason Sandmeyer
@jasandmeyer
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Jeff Chausse
@JeffChausse
I stand corrected. A digital to analog converter certainly won't be $9.99 though.
Brad Helpler
@bracl
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Jeff Chausse
@JeffChausse
I stand corrected. A digital to analog converter certainly won't be $9.99 though.
Michael Bracklo
@96kbit
this will never stop, will it
Red Tape Media
@redtapemedia
I’ve bought every iPhone that’s been available and this year I’ll be voting with my wallet. No headphone jack = deal breaker.
Jim Lipsey
@Jim_Lipsey
Apple always uncompromising in putting top-quality DACs in its products. I’d hate for this to ever change, whatever the jack.
Kevin Newman
@knewman
and of course as long as there is a speaker, iPhone will require a DAC and amp. No savings there.
Oleg Shanyuk
@gelosi
how about minijack moved back from bottom to top? :)
Troldann Arothin
@troldann
Having been an iPod Touch user forever w/bottom jack, I'd just be thrilled if iOS would rotate to "upside down."
Marc Plus
@stakwild
I know you guys won't consider this a "good" reason: accelerating adoption and advancement in wireless headphone technology.
Chris Finazzo
@chrisfinazzo
But it is the "correct" reason //
@marcoarment
Chris Finazzo
@chrisfinazzo
They aren't afraid to clean out the technological cruft that accumulates in the wake of said advancement. *HFS+* (🛎)
Alastair Campbell
@alastc
Apple blocked this project from using the lightning port, maybe they want to do something similar?
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Jonathan Tregear
@jtregear
rants. Time to buy AAPL.
Joel Housman
@joelhousman
I agree 100%.
BooneJS
@BooneJS
CNBC reports that prolific blogger, podcaster, and Apple's chief iOS developer portends doom again.
James Andrews
@jg_andrews
events this week:100th anniversary of the battle of the Somme,Brexit fallout, new PM candidates & Apple Headphone jack
Scott
@ScooterComputer
Make “dongle” electrically simple like the Intel-proposed Type-C Audio Adapter Accessory Alt Mode. That is the CRUCIAL part!
John Osborn
@john_osborn
People keep ignoring the huge social culture of sharing the "aux cord" in a car with your friends.
Greg Kaplan
@kaplag
It's a lightning cord in most new cars now. Also having an adapter plugged in always in a car is not a big deal.
Aaron McLeod
@agmcleod
i agree with your conclusion. I mostly use the apple earbuds when im not at home anyways. Well rounded sound for me :)
Anthony Craig
@ToniWonKanobi
too “shill”-ing to post an
@OvercastFM
link? :)
Walt
@WaltFrench
Nice to hear from a confessed audiophile on this subject…what’s your inventory worth, of cans that’d be clunkified by a change?
Ryan Dunnam
@haemolysin
all I'm saying is there had better be a right-angle lighting headphone connector
ash
@mutesplash
Thanks for this! Prominent voices seem to think it's a sensible idea to force people to buy new things and not offer some value
Neil Gupta
@neilgupta
I suspect we'll see EarPod-integrated health sensors that could only work over Lightning as the justification.
Alan Johnson
@commondream
I love that so many folks just say it's inevitable as their justification.
Drew Coffill
@dumbodoggies
if all that changes is the removed headphone jack then it reminds me of iPad 3 to iPad 4 when it switched to lightning port.
Philip Brocoum
@stedwick
nobody cares
Ross Neely
@rossneely
compelling reason? How about 4x speakers?
Marco Arment
@marcoarment
I don’t think the iPhone has enough volume or battery to spare for more speakers.
Ross Neely
@rossneely
I don't think so either. Dropping the headphone jack might leave enough room for one more, at least it'd be stereo in portrait
Greg Kaplan
@kaplag
couldn't the same had been said for the iPad just a year ago?
Michael
@PatientGeek
smart: Apple sells dongle close to cost to protect new iPhone revenue stupid: Apple adds 40+% profit margin, kills iPhone rev
johnforkan
@johnforkan
if the headphone jack goes, seems obvious the new iPhone will charge in the same way as the Watch. Inductive/magnetic disc.
Greg Kaplan
@kaplag
watch has no ports. That's why. It's usually all or nothing with Apple. Not an additional way to charge.
Joe
@infogulch
They're throwing iPhone 7 under the bus to save 8 from negative press. "iP8 doesn't have TRS!" "so? same as last year"
Jeff Kelley
@SlaunchaMan
Super-cynical take on headphone jack: it eliminates the non-MFI iPhone accessory market that used it to transmit data.
Darryl H. Thomas
@dh_thomas
I don’t know; seems like a drastic thing to do when BTLE can serve a similar purpose without MFI.
john spurlock
@johnspurlock
it's vr
@marcoarment
, it's vr. take a look at the way the gear vr headset works (and upcoming google one) and you'll get it.