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Naval Ravikant
@naval
1/ The logic of violence determines the structure of society. ("The Sovereign Individual" thesis)
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Naval Ravikant
@naval
2/ It is easier to take than to create. Social structure emerges from the predator-prey relationship between makers and takers.
Naval Ravikant
@naval
3/ Hunter gatherer age: No land, no possessions, axes and spears. Rule by Tribes
Naval Ravikant
@naval
4/ Agricultural age: Land & possessions emerge, hard to defend. Feudal lords run protection racket, hierarchical society. Rule by Kings.
Naval Ravikant
@naval
5/ Industrial Age: Armies with guns and vulnerable factories require consolidation of power. Rule by Nation-states
Naval Ravikant
@naval
6/ Nuclear Age: Nuclear weapons create Mutually-Assured-Destruction. Large-scale peace and small-scale war. Rule by Superpowers
Naval Ravikant
@naval
7/ Information Age: Tectonic shifts in costs of violence and returns to violence on horizon.
Naval Ravikant
@naval
8/ Info Age: Guns become trivial to create & distribute. 3D Printing becomes Printing Press for guns. Ease of offense & defense increase.
Naval Ravikant
@naval
9/ Info Age: Connected cameras. Every violent action filmed and broadcast. Returns to violence decline (except terrorism, where they rise).
Naval Ravikant
@naval
10/ Info Age: Miniaturized drones will render battlefield systems obsolete. Dominates aircraft, infantry, armor. Trivializes assassinations.
Naval Ravikant
@naval
11/ Information Age: Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies make wealth difficult to seize
Naval Ravikant
@naval
12/ Information Age: Rise of mental labor over physical labor reduces returns to conquering people and territories.
Naval Ravikant
@naval
13/ Information Age: Virtual Reality worlds create infinite land. Returns to conquering territory declines further.
Naval Ravikant
@naval
14/ Future: Money becomes information. Weapons become information. Land becomes information. Software eats society.
Naval Ravikant
@naval
15/ Future: Remaining violence is mostly secessionist / self determinist in nature. Expect many more smaller states.
Naval Ravikant
@naval
16/16: Far future: In a perfect Virtual Reality world, we all live in governments of one. Fin.
Corey ⚡️Gwin
@corey_gwin
Do we live infinitely? What of Earth's resources to provide us that life? No doubt we venture to other worlds? How do we get there?
¥§¥Stephan Froede¥§¥
@asknbid
no, far future: space ships, frontier expansion, going where nobody was before
gatsby
@Grategatsby
if you read
@jon_bois
17776 you'll give up on the idea of manned interstellar travel
¥§¥Stephan Froede¥§¥
@asknbid
Trying Interstellar travel is like: after jumping successfully over a paddle for the first time, trying to travel the oceans as a next step
¥§¥Stephan Froede¥§¥
@asknbid
On the other hand, at the moment it is impossible to rule out FTL, we don't know enough, and building a space infrastructure in Sol/1
¥§¥Stephan Froede¥§¥
@asknbid
/2 is enough work for more than 100 yrs, basically baby steps...
gatsby
@Grategatsby
I hope you're right, but I've stopped believing in our species' ability to overtake the scale of space
gatsby
@Grategatsby
largely because I can't see us committing to a single planetary goal in the way it would take to overcome the odds
¥§¥Stephan Froede¥§¥
@asknbid
Mankind was never able to agree on a single goal, but they spread across the whole planet, it always depends on groups of individuals /1
¥§¥Stephan Froede¥§¥
@asknbid
/2 to move to the next settlement site, crossing a river, or eventually leaving the planet...
~a
@desantis
👏
Matt Mastracci 🤔
@mmastrac
Interesting to think how physical ‘things’ will become luxury items in the future…
Matt Mastracci 🤔
@mmastrac
You’ll be able to simulate everything perfectly, but a very small number will still choose to possess things. Collectors of ‘real’.
Jared Janes
@JaredJanes
then we get board with the lack of adversity & simulate a time filled with scarcity/uncertainty to feel alive again. Back to 1/16
Dave DiGiovanni
@DavidDiGiovanni
haha yes!
Jared Janes
@JaredJanes
if I could only spell when tweeting from my phone!
adolfo contreras
@acrual
what if this has actually happened before and we live in an infinite loop??
Jared Janes
@JaredJanes
exactly :)
Nilesh Trivedi
@nileshtrivedi
Isn't this what video games basically are? Play first person shooting with monsters because real life is too safe.
TheHappyPhilosopher
@HapyPhilosopher
I want the blue pill...
ㅤKala
@Jelly2nes
Nah, we arent around after the last one
skiales
@skiales
U done F&$d up W/1 💩tty tweet that perfect tweet-storm. So real far future no need 4r humans rite W VR & all...!
Payton Lee
@Whamsicore
Nice, except you completely forgot about AI
martyrmade
@martyrmade
Gov'ts of one=tribalism, where authority is charismatic/voluntary, hierarchies were temporary, domain-specific, and purpose-driven.
It's Saul Goodman
@HoebagProductio
Dude. Smoke some
#DMT
and read this shit to the elves or serpants.
~a
@desantis
1/ fights between individuals *can* still exist going forward, but geo-political violence due to uncertainty meeting conflict will
~a
@desantis
2/ disappear as we formalize rules and implement enforcement over trust less systems such as Bitcoin.
Mike Coonce
@JHICFO
Wow. Ty. So grateful for dialed in perspective. Ty
¥§¥Stephan Froede¥§¥
@asknbid
VR isn't making reality obsolete
Ivan
@cherimoyas
VR food doesn't fill stomachs
Shannon Code
@shannonNullCode
This is often called the Imagination age:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imaginati…
Diogo Rossi
@drossi21
Let me know how you'll produce food in VR... virtual beef must taste delicious!
Greg Biggers
@bigs
how many tweets in this storm? I want to wait for the last to RT
Naval Ravikant
@naval
Done (16) :-)
vvvijay
@vvvijay
Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies make wealth difficult to hide. Those who have accumulated assets on the bchain are easily tracked and siezed.
سليمان علي رضا
@salireza
Are you sure about this? Seems almost as easy to steel(seize) as cash:
A Bitcoin robbery in small-town UP? It really happened | FactorDaily
Sandeep Chaturvedi, alias Bunty, was arrested on Wednesday for looting Bitcoins worth about Rs 25 lakh from a trader at gunpoint.
factordaily.com
Shane Vitarana
@shanev
They probably had plenty of localized conflicts, but not on the scale we see today. More anti-fragile.
Kurt Kumar
@KurtKumar
Decentralization is 🔑 to it all
OTIS FUNKMEYER
@otisfunkmeyer
AMEN. and fortunately it's inevitable. it's built-in to the logic of the system (in info age).
Juice
@rextar4444
violence must be measured versus our natural rights lest we accidently condemn useful conflict.