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Alex Russell
@slightlylate
TIL: there are people who think I advocate for better performance because "personal brand"
59 replies and sub-replies as of Nov 03 2017
Alex Russell
@slightlylate
Let's set a few things straight: 1.) I'm a Blink engineer, not in DevRel 2.) My advocacy comes from work with partners building PWAs...
Alex Russell
@slightlylate
3.) I only started caring about this *at all* because the results I'm seeing are so poor 4.) I will drop all of this when they improve
Alex Russell
@slightlylate
5.) the motivation is to *help teams and users succeed more often* 6.) This is the opposite of "not having empathy"
Michael Mullany
@mmullany
Just post a few traces Alex. The F500 ones I looked at doing research for Moovweb would make your eyes bleed.
Michael Mullany
@mmullany
In my exp, devs who don't work on large commercial content/commerce sites have no idea how poorly performant the median site is.
Matteo Gilardoni
@MatteoWebDesign
You are doing great job Alex
tjmonsi
@tjmonsi
In any case, i'd be happy to help in making perf and ux #1 priority in dev cycle to make it a part of muscle memory when doing web dev
tjmonsi
@tjmonsi
Talk to
@sw12
about yesterday on creating courses & helping community remember the basics on web dev so as not to perpetuate bad patterns..
tjmonsi
@tjmonsi
That is rampant in web dev: misuse of html tags, convoluted css, and overuse of js to "hack" the misuse of html & css..
tjmonsi
@tjmonsi
These bad patterns are the reasons why we have big slow web in the first place. We forgot how basics work & went to building overcomplex web
tjmonsi
@tjmonsi
I think we should really go back to basics rather than asking what framework or backend to use.
Ryan Florence
@ryanflorence
Out of respect for performance. Why are you using both . and )? You could save some bytes by removing the redundancy.
Alex Russell
@slightlylate
It's all sub-packet-sized. If chunking was a risk, might re-evaluate!
Alex Russell
@slightlylate
IOW: show me the trace 😉
Alessandro Menduni
@mendaomn
I personally love what you do and how strongly you feel about this
#groupie
Chris Palmer
@fugueish
"The slightlylating will continue until time to interactive improves"
Marcy Sutton
@marcysutton
I completely understand this. I'd love to expand my work to more than just accessibility but the results out there are still so poor.
Alex Russell
@slightlylate
Yeah, very much not my job, but it's also in the way of accomplishing truly important things. Not making me any friends, tho.
Dan Kaminsky
@dakami
If you can't bash em for their work, bash em for their motivations to do good work. The point isn't the work, it's the bashing.
Mikeal Rogers
@mikeal
HA! people really think that? Must be that classic line about Web Performance that Gary Vaynerchuck is so famous for.
Arran 🇬🇧'ish
@arranrp
we all know thats
@patrickhamann
's brand
Marcin Lulek
@_ergo_
I learned recently that webcomponents have bad API because Google secretly wants to force Polymer on people. Internet never stops to amaze
Amin Paks
@aminpakseresht
Can you share which part of API is bad?
Justin Fagnani
@justinfagnani
I think he was referring to someone who made this claim in a different, very frustrating, conversation.
tjmonsi
@tjmonsi
Yeah i do remember someone telling me Google was shoving webcomponents because they want to
#breaktheplatform
and not
#usetheplatforn
tjmonsi
@tjmonsi
Just because it didn't go well with other existing libs like jquery or frameworks, as if those big libs and frameworks are the platform :(
Amin Paks
@aminpakseresht
But no matter how hard this could be, its a step forward towards standardizing some part of web...
Amin Paks
@aminpakseresht
To me rewriting every component over and over everytime a new framework come around is more frustrating!
Amin Paks
@aminpakseresht
I remember the time Mozilla started the MDN and creating specifications. Now we appreciate and see it was needed
Dmitrii
@dmitriid
Haha. That was me :) All Twitter conversations are frustrating :)
Monica Dinculescu
@notwaldorf
is this sarcasm? i hope this is sarcasm
Marcin Lulek
@_ergo_
I'd wish.
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@popcornpool
Literally *every talk ever* from the Polymer team is about a future where web components are a native, amazing thing, everywhere. Period.
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@popcornpool
Remember
#UseThePlatform
? It's literally their thing.
Monica Dinculescu
@notwaldorf
i think
@_ergo_
was just relating a thing he read, not saying he believes the thing himself.
so called developer
@marcfawzi
LOL
mike stip
@wickedchicken
I always thought you advocated for better performance because you were always slightly late
Mikeal Rogers
@mikeal
but seriously, I can't think of a worse way to build personal brand than telling everyone "your favorite framework makes your site unusable"
Mikeal Rogers
@mikeal
it's hard and I imagine mostly thankless work, so thank you :)
Rick Waldron
@rwaldron
lol
Chris Eppstein
@chriseppstein
Nah man, caremad always comes from a place much deeper than that. ✌️🤘🤜🤛
Jiminy Panoz
@JiminyPan
Dieter Rams once said “The designer is the user’s advocate within the company.” As a user, I wish more developers were inspired by Rams…
Philip Young
@philipyoungg
He's a legend.
Mark Smith
@markzzzsmith
Or Tron - "I fight ... for the users!"
You and 52 others
@kragen
It's easy to get causality backward when trying to infer it from correlation :)
Trey Shugart
@treshugart
Some people will think anything so long as it makes them feel better or furthers their agenda. You be you, mate.
Taylor Savage
@TaylorTheSavage
In the javascript-industrial complex, personal brand is a major currency. User-first advocacy ftw
Mark Nottingham
@mnot
That’s insane; obviously if you cared about branding, the first thing you’d do is consolidate the mismatched slightly* ids.
Alex Russell
@slightlylate
Nobody would claim I'm *good* at the things I try to do.
David East
@_davideast
After we meet in person, that would have been the last thing I would think.
Trey Shugart
@treshugart
Same. Alex is one of the most down to earth people I’ve met.
Dennis Ahagon
@D2KX_
I was so happy to see you at that Chrome Dev Summit panel. We need more people like you that speak out when shit sucks and could get better.
Chris Darroch 🇵🇱
@chrisdarroch
“what if we make everything faster for our users and it only makes Alex look good?”
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@slightlylate
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Trey Shugart
@treshugart
That's exactly what I thought of, too.
tjmonsi
@tjmonsi
That's some stupid thinking... Personal brand? Better performance is a must and it is not about branding
Chris Bolin
@bolinchris
lol
Kitson Kelly
@kitsonk
They clearly have you confused with
@FakeAlexRussell
. He is the one who advocates based on their "personal brand".