I'm not by no means excusing this kind of behavior, I'm just pointing out that he isn't the only one that has done this! And I am stating a fact that I do miss him on tv! But I still don't condone what he done, either! So what makes u think that I am excusing this behavior??? 🤔
So you feel you have the ability to distinguish between immoral behaviours that are "acceptable" (eg, consensual) and obviously unacceptable, & yet someone else who exercises a different choice, you condemn as immoral. The pattern here is subjectively rationalising immorality. /1
I too condemn harassment and uninvited sexual behaviour. I also condemn the gross sexually promiscuous immorality, consensual or otherwise, promoted and normalised by Hollywood. Let's not stop at singling out responsible individuals who are a product of their industry & culture.
No, I have ability to understand that sexual harassment in the workplace is prohibited by Title III of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. You don’t like promiscuity? Fine. Don’t sleep around. That has zero to do with this issue.
That trite response is as dumb as saying "Don't like racism, don't be a racist."
It does nothing to help advance conversations about industry's responsibility to cultural problems.
Be capable of nuance.
Ok again, how am I excusing his behavior??? ALL I said was that I miss him on tv! I NEVER said what he did was okay! U are reading wayyyyyy too much into a simple statement! I DO NOT condone that type of behavior & NEVER WILL! But he is still one of my favorite journalists!
I read your apology. True repentance is important. I sense that. As a confessed sinner I know the shame of past deeds, as I know the hurt of false accusation, & of deep misunderstandings. Frankly, I had stopped watching due to your political bias. May we all learn of God's grace.
You’re social progress roadkill (you adhered to standards that became wrong with time) and I’m happy you publicly owned up and apologized for your mistakes. When will you come back, despite the dent in your reputation I think you should come back, you’re one of the best ever.
He’s not a troll (I don’t think) and I wouldn’t call him stupid, either. It’s just a reality of our society that most men don’t take sexual harrassment seriously. Until, you know, they end up@being sexually harassed by some dude, then the world is ending.
Or maybe you are just a terrible person and people are just finally realising.
I guess 8 young women being routinely sexually harassed is worth it so you can watch Charlie on the TV huh?
But hey, priorities, amirite?
I get you, I loved the show, too.
Frontline still there, even PBS Newshour is great. I recommend podcasts you can listen to while working, driving, doing chores: Freaknomics, NewYorker, Longform, This American Life, BBC's From Our Own Correspondent, many others on NPR
I pray for your return. Everyone deserves to be forgiven it’s the Christian beliefs. I forgive you and hope that others will as well. Give Charlie back his life. Believe that he’s a better person today for facing his demons. 🌝
Yes @shannoncoulter, I'll never forget. I don't know any Charlie Rose but the TV persona - a gentleman - and that's who I miss. Pity they aren't one and the same. What he did was deplorable and we can't tolerate it. I do hope he is sincerely sorry ... his persona wud be.
Charlie you are truly missed @CBSThisMorning and the alternative replacement is truly disgraceful to viewers. Why John on International Women's Day told Norah that he would just love to jump in her lap like a dog.
I am a believer in innocent until proven guilty. I also think some of this going around is for attention . I mean come on they thought so little of themselves that they can't say no, a career isn't worth sacrificing your morals.
Whereas I'm *very* concerned about any woman who would root for the return of someone who has been accused of on-the-job sexual harassment by eight women. The behavior they describe shouldn't be shrugged off. Stop normalizing it.
We all have our stories, Sherry, and for whatever yours is, I'm truly sorry. But encouraging & supporting a person who gropes female staff members and exposes himself to them is not "standing behind all women." No.
I am sorry for the women who suffered and I certainly do not condoned the unacceptable behavior. ALL of us human beings have different facets to our lives, some good some bad some worse #Humankindness#forgiveness#InnerPeace
I'm sorry if my post hurt you or offended you in anyway. I respect your opinion I am open to your point of view but I am not on Twitter to create arguments, disputes or trying to prove a point. #MeToo#Godbless
I think the line is different for everyone. Some family members of Dylan Roof's victims forgave him. Don't think I could, but there you are. Weinstein did much worse, and I can see his bar being much higher. At what level is the mea culpa adequate?
Okay, I buy the loss of trust argument as far as news reporting. But what about his eponymous talk show? Did we need to trust a host who's interviewing authors and film directors? I'm assuming he made a more heartfelt apology and promised not to do any more inappropriate acts.
A problem I have with the Mr Rose case was the sexual banter nearly everyday with his two female co hosts. It was odd and creepy. Don’t say I’m victim blaming. There were two grown women playing along.
Here are the Twitter feeds of 118 journalists who also do excellent reporting, many of whom are on TV and none of whom have been accused of repeatedly exposing their genitals to staff members. twitter.com/shannoncoulter…
You can miss his excellent reporting - and still very much support the women he harassed. He got exactly what he deserved - purgatory that he'll never return from. If his passion for the truth had only been more self directed. Goodbye @charlierose
So what, Shannon?
Nobody cares about those accusers anymore. They were crybaby naive idiots and we see in the #MeToo movement that they willingly went to a mans apartment!
Hint: No man ever invites you over to “watch TV”, and no Women invites you in for “a cup of coffee”!
Human nature NEVER changes!
Been like that since men crawled out of the swamp and dragged his women with him.
You don’t set your steak on the floor and beat your dog for taking a bite!
(Well, you might, but wudnt)
We miss you Charlie!! Pathetic to see some of your “colleagues” go after your name when you were down. Just know MEDIA does not speak for everyone. A lot of people being judged and convicted after a mere allegation. You’ll come back stronger. Wherever you go on. #charlierose
Thinking about prison/ criminal justice reform- doing drug abuse/ recidivism-incarceration syndrome so wrong. Healthcare so broke - let families help families-HSA’s for use for family members- grandkids with diabetes. Why not!
Charlie was held accountable for his reprehensible actions. His life still matters. A path to redemption includes making amends to his victims. Redemption, for Charlie, does not nullify the empathy and compassion we all share for the victims.
Hope you are well, nothing comes close to what you have done as a journalist, please come back. Miss you, the CR show and the table. You were part of my life and kept me informed on many aspects of current affairs. I'm a lot stupider since you left.
“I always felt that I was pursuing shared feelings, even though I now realize I was mistaken.” That is denying what he did by framing it as a misunderstanding exposing your genitals to 8 women is not a misunderstanding. It's sexual harassment. .
You are really missed there is a hole of objectivity as a result of your absence. Charlie I was disappointment that you didn’t stay around and fight those allegations. What happen to due process? Hope you are well and planning a comeback
Personal mistakes we all make, we are human. Hope you are doing well. Would love to see you again on TV., but if not please enjoy retirement. You have gave so much to so many. I believe you’ve change the world with your reporting, you made a difference...thank you. Hurry Back.
Cultural differences fascinate me. In🇺🇸 ppl like you & Weinstein never quit - you're always looking for a way to get back in the game.
Meanwhile, in🇰🇷, men continue to kill themselves out of shame.
I'd settle for some middle ground, where shame exists but isn't lethal.
What is wrong with people? What have they done with their morals and integrity to encourage people that are know to have done wrong? These are the same people that do not understand Charles Manson followers
For the sake of keeping the little faith in humanity I have left-to all welcoming Charlie back and telling him he is missed; congratulations on awakening from your comas! You won’t BELIEVE all you’ve missed. There’s so much news to read as you’re nursed back to health. Good luck!
U broke my heart Mr. Rose, u really did. I loved your interviews but it turned out u treated women horribly & R a self-entitled, self absorbed dick. Do I miss your interviews? Yes. But w/o very serious apologies & acknowledgement of harm done not enough 2 listen 2 u ever again
@charlierose I believe you meant to say "Her" which is the new TV show you've developed to showcase a woman's rise in the workforce by her own merits and not by how she reacts to a man in a bathrobe?
It's a start.
I was annoyed by frequency of CR interrupting guests in middle of their answers and thoughts to insert his own, throwing them off their train of thought. It was narcissistic of him; he wasn't listening to them, but to himself. Now we've learned it was all his ego. All of it.
Sir what you did was deplorable, and many of us were hurt not just by your actions, but also by your deception. We thought you were one of the good ones. That being said, your professionalism was unparalleled & the vacancy you’ve left behind is felt like a defending silence.
I can only hope that you do what you can to find forgiveness in the women you have unfairly & selfishly burdened. But also that you look within yourself to find the answers to becoming a individual, free from your own transgressions. The 1st step to redemption is self reflection.
I tend to believe in victims of sexual assault/ rape that speak up, at least until there is considerable doubt. Why? Because I wish that I could have believed that that support was there for me when *I* was the victim.
Clear your name first, if you intend on ever returning. ✌️
Let me say we have all made mistakes of judgment. But some people serve a public good. I’m disabled partially and somewhat home bound. Mr Rose made my life better I looked forward to seeing him every night. There must be a way to bring these men back into society.
Charlie, if you're going to apologise then do it properly without lying. You expect me to believe you thought you were pursuing shared feelings. I don't think so, pal.
Hint: When a girl shudders and squirms when you touch them, that means they don't like it.
Question how many the accusers have been checked out. How do we know which are telling the truth and which are not. Everyone concerned deserves their day in court. Guilty or not judged by a jury of their peers.
You are TRULY missed Mr. Rose! 💗 You are an excellent journalist, who worked very hard to reach such levels. I miss your reporting, the exclusive interviews, your personality overall in the news media is pure! You MUST come back!
I miss your nightly interview show. It was the only one of its kind on TV which afforded the viewer an in depth examination of the issues. When I was working as a News Director in radio, I advised my staffers to watch how you conducted interviews as a guide to doing it right.
I can’t wait for S to respond with some smart ass comment. Grab your own wallet. Do you think that all people that do something bad do not DESERVE any type of redemption? From you post it would seem that your opinion is that everyone ACCUSED of something wrong don’t. WHY?
Charlie, as a person who has grown up with your program and gotten so much educational value from your guests and your style of interviewing I am hoping you will continue the courage to continue future great conversations perhaps via podcast?